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  • I am going to make a film. A Slender Man film. I want to call it 'The Operator', but I don't know if Slendy and Operator are the same creature. Please help.
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    My movie I'm making for 2014.

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    • The MH producers have stated that The Operator is completely separate entity from Slenderman.

      When will people realize the difference?

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    • Oh my God, I just had an argument about this with someone else this morning.

      Let me make this perfectly clear.

      THE OPERATOR AND SLENDERMAN ARE NOT THE SAME BEING, AND IF YOU MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THE OPERATOR, YOU'RE BEGGING FOR A LAWSUIT. SLENDERMAN IS CREATIVE COMMONS, BUT THE OPERATOR IS COPYRIGHT MARBLEHORNETS, SO DON'T DO THAT!!!

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    • I always thought the operator was just another name for slender man.Please link me to where MH creators said that they are different.

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    • I'll have to do some digging, but it was one of their interviews on Youtube. They have stated that The Operator is Not Slenderman for the express ability of being able to kill and utilize their villain in any way they want without having to worry about attacking the mythos.

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    • Are the Operator and Slendy the same creature?

      http://youtu.be/DiB8cjgui6o?t=1s


      I know this has been answered but I wanted to do that for a really long time.

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    • Well,I'm still waiting for someone to post a link to a video or a interview of MH creators saying that the operator is not the slender man......

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    • I think that Slenderman and Operator are basicly same entity, but in different continuties, if you know what I mean? They don't exist together in same universe / lore. That's what I think.

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    • Madpredator wrote: I think that Slenderman and Operator are basicly same entity, but in different continuties, if you know what I mean? They don't exist together in same universe / lore. That's what I think.

      When will people realize that Slenderman and The Operator are NOT the same thing:/

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    • ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Madpredator wrote: I think that Slenderman and Operator are basicly same entity, but in different continuties, if you know what I mean? They don't exist together in same universe / lore. That's what I think.

      When will people realize that Slenderman and The Operator are NOT the same thing:/

      I have agree with Madpredator,they are away too similar to me to be a different creature until somebody actually posts a link that the MH creators said the operator is a different entity >:/ 

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    • Chieftain1 wrote:

      ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Madpredator wrote: I think that Slenderman and Operator are basicly same entity, but in different continuties, if you know what I mean? They don't exist together in same universe / lore. That's what I think.

      When will people realize that Slenderman and The Operator are NOT the same thing:/

      I have agree with Madpredator,they are away too similar to me to be a different creature until somebody actually posts a link that the MH creators said the operator is a different entity >:/ 

      This is the a quote on The operator page on here."In addition, the MH producers have stated The Operator is a completely separate entity from Slender Man, since the two do not use the same methods or have the same goals" there's your proof.

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    • ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Chieftain1 wrote:


      ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Madpredator wrote: I think that Slenderman and Operator are basicly same entity, but in different continuties, if you know what I mean? They don't exist together in same universe / lore. That's what I think.

      When will people realize that Slenderman and The Operator are NOT the same thing:/
      I have agree with Madpredator,they are away too similar to me to be a different creature until somebody actually posts a link that the MH creators said the operator is a different entity >:/ 
      This is the a quote on The operator page on here."In addition, the MH producers have stated The Operator is a completely separate entity from Slender Man, since the two do not use the same methods or have the same goals" there's your proof.

      That's not what I meant,I mean to an actual interview via youtube....

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    • Where did you think that statement came from? It probably came from a YouTube interview. Cause it wouldn't make any sense to put that on the page without any proof coming from the actually producers themselves.

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    • I mean that actual link to the youtube video that said it >:/

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    • Oh,I don't know where that would be.

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    • Chieftain1 wrote:
      ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Madpredator wrote: I think that Slenderman and Operator are basicly same entity, but in different continuties, if you know what I mean? They don't exist together in same universe / lore. That's what I think.

      When will people realize that Slenderman and The Operator are NOT the same thing:/
      I have agree with Madpredator,they are away too similar to me to be a different creature until somebody actually posts a link that the MH creators said the operator is a different entity >:/ 

      Oh there is absolutely no question that they are similar, but for actually the wrong reasons.

      Prior to MarbleHornets, Slenderman did not exhibit Memory Loss, Audio Video damage, passive aggressive stalking, or the proxy situation. These were all traits fed into Slenderman AFTER these series were made. Once MarbleHornets became popular, Slenderman changed. Once EverymanHYBRID became popular, Slenderman changed. This is true for nearly all of the mythos. They're similar because he's ripped off from other creatures that used him as a base. Stories of Slenderman had him exclusively stalking kids, impaling others, and rearranging organs. Noticeably, this is no longer present in traditional Slenderman lore at large. Nearly all of Slenderman's traits never existed until these series did. The Operator is basically the MH crew's interpretation of Slenderman, in the same way that each series really has its own Slenderman, and it would be boring and ruin the story if one of them killed off Slenderman and that became an official part of Slenderman. The MarbleHornets Slenderman, which is always referred to by the creators as The Operator, that much can be seen in every interview, and relayed multiple times in the Radio Interviews, is their own self contained Slenderman who is separate from the mythos itself. This doesn't mean he isn't a Slenderman, but that he isn't Slenderman himself.

      As for the proof I have mentioned, I know it's out there, and I will find it, but I can't seem to locate it at the minute. I have found the TvTropes page for MarbleHornets that pretty much duplicates what I said, and several posts on Slender Nation, but sadly the original statement by the official crew I cannot currently locate. This doesn't mean I've given up because I have seen it and I know it's on youtube, but the channel I originally saw it on may have been closed so it will take digging.

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    • It's only when I see this video that the MH creators said that the operator is different entity to Slender man then I'll take your proof.

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    • Chieftain1 wrote:
      It's only when I see this video that the MH creators said that the operator is different entity to Slender man then I'll take your proof.

      Fair enough.

      Still, due to the use of a different name which is utilized by the MH crew and the severe differences between Slenderman and The Operator, they will be considered two separate entities.

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    • Is it possible that they just created the operator and stated him to be a different entity to avoid copyright claims by Victor surge?

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    • Chieftain1 wrote:
      Is it possible that they just created the operator and stated him to be a different entity to avoid copyright claims by Victor surge?

      Probably not. Just calling your character something else doesn't avoid copyright. If I made a green hedgehog that stood on two legs and ran really fast and called him "Josh", that doesn't mean Sega can't sue me over it.

      No, the reasoning I figure, and several people on Slender Nation said the same thing

      Imagine this:

      1) Someone makes an ARG involving Slenderman

      2a) They name the antagonist Slenderman

      2b) They name the antagonist Hellspawn and give him different powers while removing some from the original Slenderman when they make Hellspawn

      3a) At the end of their series, Slenderman dies due to water. This causes outrage by other watchers who become upset Slenderman died due to water, and if this is a famous series, this is now a canon part of Slendy, and Slendy becomes far less frightening because he's weak to a cup of water.

      3b) At the end of their series, Hellspawn dies due to water. Since Hellspawn is stated NOT to be Slenderman, nobody gets upset by this because it's not a canon part of Slenderman, thus allowing the crew of Hellspawn to do whatever they want without fan backlash.


      If anything, I would assume that. By calling their Slenderman "The Operator" and giving him drastically different powers than Slendy, this allows them to do whatever they want to their antagonist without having to worry about people saying "Slendy wouldn't do that!" because they can respond "We know, but it's not Slendy anyways so it doesn't matter".

      And remember, 90% of Slendy's powers are completely plagirized from The Operator. Nowadays it doesn't seem that way because we've associated them together, but Slenderman > Marble Hornets, then Marble Hornets > Slender: The 8 Pages, thus Slender: The 8 Pages > Slenderman. In reality all the MH crew stole from Slendy was his teleportation and his stalking, they created everything else: the memory loss, the audio/visual distortion, the year after year stalking, the mind control/mind altering which in many other series is now deemed "proxy", and removed his tentacles, his organ replacement, his face shifting appearance, his impalement, and his use of fire.

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    • I mean is that When the Mh creators made the name the operator to avoid copyright claims by victor.Last year a Slender man game called "Faceless" was on Steam greenlight,the game couldn't get greenlit because they used the name "slender man",it was only until that the devs started referring slender man "The being" that they were allow to be on steam.

      I'm very sure the same thing happened to the slender man movie,it was removed from youtube(some copies still exist).

      Also not every series has to follow what every series does.Even if one series says that SM's weakness is water and it's canon but one series can still have the SM character and can just ignore that part.

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    • Chieftain1 wrote:
      I mean is that When the Mh creators made the name the operator to avoid copyright claims by victor.Last year a Slender man game called "Faceless" was on Steam greenlight,the game couldn't get greenlit because they used the name "slender man",it was only until that the devs started referring slender man "The being" that they were allow to be on steam.

      I'm very sure the same thing happened to the slender man movie,it was removed from youtube(some copies still exist).

      Also not every series has to follow what every series does.Even if one series says that SM's weakness is water and it's canon but one series can still have the SM character and can just ignore that part.

      Only one problem, Victor Surge sold the rights a long time ago. He doesn't actually own Slenderman anymore. I can't recall whom he sold it to, but it was a production company. All I know is Victor Surge made out quite well with a good sum on it.

      All in all probably a good idea on his part. Copyright enforcement is hard and expensive.

      When MH was around, I believe he still has the right, but he hasn't since at least 2008

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    • Didn't know that he sold it to a production company.Hopefully it isn't Disney,Just imagine that the amount of people will get pissed off and it will finally ruin SM forever.

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    • Chieftain1 wrote:
      Didn't know that he sold it to a production company.Hopefully it isn't Disney,Just imagine that the amount of people will get pissed off and it will finally ruin SM forever.

      Oh God, I know right?

      I can't figure out who exactly owns it, but that was the problem with Faceless (Slender: Source). While VS was okay with it, he doesn't actually own it so Valve has to get in touch with the actual owners.

      The nice thing about Slendy is, however, that his creation and ownership, while private, still falls under creative commons. As long as you don't call him Slenderman and you name him whatever you want, you technically can do whatever and own whatever you want. For example, if a crew called their character "The Operator", Troy Wagner can sue, if a person calls their character "Slenderman", then the company can sue, but if they call him "The Dialer", then you can't because it appears to be legal to spin Slenderman however you want as long as he isn't Slenderman. This is basically the equivalent of creating a fan character and being legal about it.

      Now don't quote me in court on that regarding copyright law, but that is what I've found overall regarding it and that is the reason MH, EMH, TT, DH, and so on don't get sued. They can't as long as they don't claim to own the mythos character: Slenderman, and keep from directly mentioning his name. Faceless appears to be greenlit as long as their character isn't Slendy. The only thing that isn't certain is whether someone could claim copyright if Slenderman was made into a million dollar budget movie, but chances are since VS is American from what I have been told, it'll fall under US law and probably be knocked down by the Supreme Court. Probably. Not 100% on that.

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    • Agreed.

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    • Jeez...

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    • Implord wrote:
      Jeez...

      What?

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    • I just imagined a Disney- Movie about Slendy.

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    • Implord wrote: I just imagined a Disney- Movie about Slendy.

      That would be so awesome!!

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    • Well, thats not that for sure. Disney can also make movies with the quality of Justin Bieber. Its just a far too big company to be sure about it.

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    • ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Implord wrote: I just imagined a Disney- Movie about Slendy.

      That would be so awesome!!

      Would it be like the ones in the 90's or the new ones?

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    • Thats the question.

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    • Implord wrote:
      I just imagined a Disney- Movie about Slendy.

      That..........(puts on sunglasses) will scare kid for life...........but it WILL BE MADE....kid:but it will be scar-NO EXEPTCION 

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    • http://thesaeseries.deviantart.com/art/RON-PART-12-170441838

      DO NOT DISTURB THE ORDER!

      Anyway, I wonder what the intro would be like.... You know, this scene with the castle?

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    • Marble Hornets claims they're seperate....personally, I believe Slenderman is one of many differen faceless beings, so perhaps they are the same species?

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    • ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      Implord wrote: I just imagined a Disney- Movie about Slendy.

      That would be so awesome!!

      They've made horror before, such as Something Wicked This Way Comes

      They also were the first company to show any interest in Wes Craven's concept for Nightmare on Elm Street....but they wanted him to tone it down so teenagers and preteens could watch, so Wes Craven took his idea elsewhere

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    • Jeez... This world is difficult.

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    • I don't recall them EVER saying that the Operator and Slenderman are two seperate creatures, if so please show your proof. Also if you study the wiki it clearly states that the Operator is anoter name for the Slenderman, also if you study the Operator symbol, there is a theroy that it represents Slenderman's lack of a face, meaning that it is connected to him. The Operator and the Slenderman are one and the same.

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    • PuppetTheProxy wrote: I don't recall them EVER saying that the Operator and Slenderman are two seperate creatures, if so please show your proof. Also if you study the wiki it clearly states that the Operator is anoter name for the Slenderman, also if you study the Operator symbol, there is a theroy that it represents Slenderman's lack of a face, meaning that it is connected to him. The Operator and the Slenderman are one and the same.

      Additionally, since MarbleHornets has never attributed the term "Proxy", entities like Masky and Hoody are hard to define. In addition, the MH producers have stated The Operator is a completely separate entity from Slender Man, since the two do not use the same methods or have the same goals.

      And I believe there is a video where they stated it,but I can't find it. Btw this came from this wiki page itself

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    • ⓍfluffykittyⓍ wrote:

      PuppetTheProxy wrote: I don't recall them EVER saying that the Operator and Slenderman are two seperate creatures, if so please show your proof. Also if you study the wiki it clearly states that the Operator is anoter name for the Slenderman, also if you study the Operator symbol, there is a theroy that it represents Slenderman's lack of a face, meaning that it is connected to him. The Operator and the Slenderman are one and the same.

      Additionally, since MarbleHornets has never attributed the term "Proxy", entities like Masky and Hoody are hard to define. In addition, the MH producers have stated The Operator is a completely separate entity from Slender Man, since the two do not use the same methods or have the same goals.

      And I believe there is a video where they stated it,but I can't find it. Btw this came from this wiki page itself

      I just like that people saying that MH creators said that the operator and slender man are different beings but don't actually post any links to interviews of MH creators saying it.....

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    • So what?

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    • Implord wrote:
      So what?

      I want a link to this "interview" they keep on referring to that the MH creators siad that the operator and slender man are different beings so I can make sure that this "interview" is real and the operator is really not slender man.

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    • That I figured.

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    • Well I jsut got into Creepypasta not long ago but since the two look Exsactly alike yeah they are the same guy. Even if MH saids they arnt they are. You might not be able to use the name not sure but Copyright only last so long before Operator is jsut listed as another name for Slenderman Other wise they wouldn't look 100% alike

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    • Your Slendy will wear... bandanas!

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    • Old thread is old.

      By the way, bandanas are awesome. :D

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    • But they are not so creepy.

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    • He'd be more of a gangster Slenderman then...

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    • I want a fusion of him and Bane...

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    • Implord wrote:
      I want a fusion of him and Bane...

      Oh my god, that'd be so awesome.

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    • So you think the eight pages are your ally? You have merely adapted the eight pages...

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    • The Operator is a character in the MarbleHornets ARG and a major focus of the story. Unlike many other ARG's, he is the major antagonist, whereas in most ARG's the main antagonist is someone working through him.

      The Operator came about before the contemporary mythos and his depiction has helped shaped the mythos, but he has multiple differences in attitude and behavior compared to the Slender Man.

      • He does not have any tentacles or tentacle like powers. (at least none shown so far)
      • He rarely seems to move on camera.
      • His appearance causes extreme physical debilitation and audio/video destruction of electronics.
      • He can wipe extensive periods of memory from victims.
      • He does not seem to have any limitations in movement.
      • His behavior is a mix of animalistic and sapient, making him highly unpredictable.
      • He seems to cause odd behavioral changes in people, such as Alex becoming aggressive, Hoody running about trying to kill Alex, and Tim's shifts between Masky and himself.

      The Operator is based on Slender Man as one can see from the appearance, however due to its very extreme and different depiction against the classic depiction of Slender Man, it has been debated over whether or not the Operator is another name for Slender Man or another being altogether. The Operator and Slender Man have been influenced by each other, and it may be in part due to the Operator since Slender Man has some of the traits the Operator has been observed with.

      Additionally, since MarbleHornets has never attributed the term "Proxy", entities like Masky and Hoody are hard to define. In addition, the MH producers have stated The Operator is a completely separate entity from Slender Man, since the two do not use the same methods or have the same goals.

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    • Thank you.

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    • The Operator and Slenderman could be brothers... (Gasping) why didn't any one think of that. Only jokeing, It's your movie, as long as you have permissions you can do what ever the hell you wan't, and no one can stop you... ever again (Evil tone silent giggleing slowly becoming a quiet laugh) ha ha ha ha (slowly getting louder) ha! ha! ha! (the progresses into loud evil laugh) HA! HA! HA! HA!... (breaths in) HA! HA! HA! HA! (Starts coughing) sorry, you get the idea anyway.

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    • Okay. '_'

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    • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUtMdfebeaoct9in4XxsuxUx6aVsrkce-


      Watch this, there is a clip in the first vid where Troy and Joseph clearly states that the Operator is another being than Slendy

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    • Maybe they order their faces from the same catalogue...

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    • Why is this even still a debate? Jesus fuck, I mean seriously. 

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    • I think this is mostly active so any dork who thinks they ARE the same creature can look it up right here.

      Because he couldn't just look it up on the Wiki.

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