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This post will act as a finale to this situation unless my admin team feels the need to further add to the controversy or something significant happens following this post, however we have little doubt to believe that there will be any further need for debate.
As of December 1st, 2020, a video was uploaded by Youtuber "Anonymous Apple" named "A Phone Call With Adam Rosner". The video, roughly 44+ minutes long, details a call between a young woman (who will remain completely anonymous on this wiki and in this post) performed a phone call in November of 2020 with Rosner. She has since then given it to Anonymous Apple to upload. I won't go over every word in the phone call, as you can hear it for yourself in the provided link at the end of this post, but we at the Slender Man wiki see this as the cement to the foundation. We had already concluded previously that the situation was done and dusted, however this new evidence is effectively a confession of the entire situation and leaves no room for question. The only potential positive is that it is good that Rosner admits responsibility, but it becomes so buried underneath the concern for himself that I feel the need to even retract an attempt to give this compliment at all, and this turns to frustration when you remember that this confession was made on a phone call that he may have assumed would never see the light of day.
Rosner himself has yet publicly confessed on his own.
He does state in the call that he will be making a statement at some point, but the controversy is months old now, and the phone call at least a week and at most a full month and a week, and yet no word has been heard. At this juncture, I doubt it would help sway his case regardless.
We at the Slender Man Wiki do not wish death or harm on Adam Rosner, his family, close friends, acquaintances, or otherwise those Rosner knows. We do not approve of a witch hunt, and expect our community not to attack him or anyone he knows. Doing so only makes you the bad guy, and completely undermines your position. That said, we will be enacting the following.
We will be redacting all TT articles that contain transcripts of episodes, deleting a number of images we hadn't yet deleted, completely removing all links to any videos, tweets, or otherwise regarding the series, and removing anything else we feel we can. As we have said before, a full removal of TribeTwelve is almost impossible due to its impact on Slender Man and the community, but we can certainly greatly remove a number of details to the series and limit the information to what is needed.
Outside of these controversy posts made by myself and my wonderful admin team who helped compile much of this evidence and made the second post, mentioning Adam Rosner from hereon will not be allowed. To clarify: you may freely discuss the problem in these posts, and nowhere else on the wiki. His name is stricken except on a strict need-to-know basis. The wiki will only host TT information relative to the date of this post and prior, and will not be allowed to be updated with any new information to reflect new details that Rosner may make in the future. Images of him are strictly banned from this wiki. If we miss an image, please inform us so it may be banned immediately.
We are saddened this situation has happened, and wish well for the victims of Rosner. We hope one day he can stop explaining how this has affected "him". If you want the internet not to see you as a monster, Rosner, then you need to actively come clean. It has been almost a half a year by time of posting and your act of good will to fix things is going to mean less as time goes by and you continue to delay it.
One final time: DO NOT WITCH HUNT ADAM ROSNER. Inform others, discuss it, and do not let him excuse it, but do not Witch Hunt his family or him, and do not issue death threats. Becoming a villain to fight a villain does not make you a hero. Be the better person.
Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUPxJnWMgPY
Link to my first post: https://theslenderman.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000064003
Link to the evidence post made by my admins Implord and PyroGothNerd: https://theslenderman.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000001750779
Trigger Warnings: Sexual Violence, Abuse, Grooming
Dear Slenderman Community,
First of, apologies that it took so long. We reached our decision long ago, but somehow never got around to putting it in words, because life is already a weird thing to deal with in a normal year, which is not the kind of year we are currently having.
For those who are not aware of the full situation, there is already a thread on the matter, but just to reiterate: Adam Rosner, creator of TribeTwelve, has been accused to be a groomer, a pedophile and even a rapist.
After becoming aware of these accusations, we first decided to not jump the gun. We are aware of the importance to believe and stand with the victims of assault, we are also aware that the internet is a breeding ground for nasty rumors.
However, looking into the allegations left us with little to doubt and we quickly concluded that Adam Rosner is a sexual offender. We are therefore openly siding with his victims and their demands for justice.
This statement is final and we will not discuss it.
As for actions:
As you may or may not have noticed, we have tried our best to remove any graphic evidence of Rosner from our Wiki, meaning that we deleted both images and links to videos that feature him, as well as any direct links to TribeTwelve, in general. We also removed the in-depth analysis of each entry, aiming to treat TT with no more attention than its relevance to the subject of this Wiki absolutely requires.
We will take further steps, should they seem necessary along the way.
Finally, two warnings:
First off, I want to remind you that comments and discussions of sexual nature are against the rules of this Wiki. The threads that discuss this matter are to be considered exceptions from the rule, which we will enforce on every other page and in every other conversation on the Wiki.
In other words, do not discuss the subject outside of the designated threads. We will ban you, otherwise.
Second off, I would like to carry on a request made by one of the people that brought the topic to general attention: Please refrain from harassing, well, anyone associated with the whole affair.
Apparently, just to name one of various reasons why it's a bad thing to do, some unlucky people that are also named Adam Rosner have been very disturbed about the death threats they have received for, as far as they're concerned, no reason.
We understand that many of you might be angry about the shadow all of this casts over TT, which had a huge fanbase, but only so far you understand that the well-being of actual humans is way more important than any show.
We hope you are all as well as one can be in this hell of a year and wish you the very best,
Implord
As many of the community are well aware, Adam Rosner (known famously in the Slender Man ARG circles for creating TribeTwelve) has been accused of child grooming (or at least "attempted child grooming") and being a pedophile. As the head admin of the Slender Man wiki, this information is both alarming and rather disappointing to hear. TribeTwelve has sadly been one of the better ARG's involving Slender Man. While MarbleHornets may have always been my favorite, I would argue TT has been a close second if due to the interesting plot and unusual visuals. Having a reveal about the creator like this is saddening.
That said, I have currently been unable to find conclusive evidence regarding the allegations. A lot of this seems to stem from Mr. Rosner completely deleting his social media accounts and removing any comments he has ever made, and nobody posting their sources regarding these allegations. In other words: I am willing to believe that this is indeed potentially true, but want surefire evidence before making any significant judgments as to how we proceed on the wiki. It certainly looks guilty with him deleting all of the posts, but as I never got to see them, I can't assure any of this evidence existed. It is entirely reasonable to believe he deleted the accounts out of panic and confusion when accused just as it is reasonable to assume he did so to hide evidence.
This is not a defense of Mr. Rosner himself. If he is guilty, then decisions will be made regarding how to conduct content regarding him on the wiki. That said, I do believe in the doctrine of "innocent until proven guilty", and just because a lot of people are repeating the phrases "pedophile" and "groomer" doesn't mean these allegations go beyond a reasonable doubt. If you do have sources and proof, please post appropriate links in response to this and help me find proof regarding his guilt (or innocence if you have legitimate proof this is a hoax). Behavior like this should not be tolerated and it is our belief that this kind of behavior has no place in the Slender Man mythos, but before I pillory a man and metaphorically stone him to death with my words and actions, I just want to be sure he is completely guilty of that he has been accused of.
EDIT: I shouldn't have to preface this, but it seems I do. I am not defending Adam Rosner nor his actions. All I want is the burden of proof passed to know he is indeed guilty of the claims, and many of the Reddit and Discord posts I see on the topic reference a single Twitlonger which I haven't been able to verify and everybody has accepted as gospel.
In May of 2019, Youtuber Jared Knabenbauer (better known as Projared) was accused of soliciting sexual images of minors in exchange for his own. Proof was found that he was soliciting nude photographs, and immediately the internet attacked him. Numerous videos discussing the topic were posted to Youtube, the comments section of his videos became a disaster of anti-Jared hatred, and he lost his connection with Normal Boots (an entertainment company founded by Jon Jafari or "Jontron" and Austin Hargrave or "PeanutButterGamer". The situation was mixed in regarding Jared's marital strife and he quickly went radio silent which everyone took as an admission of guilt.
Before August of the same year, Jared made a video titled "YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO". He has since taken it down to move on from the controversy, but it has been reuploaded to Youtube by others. The video has Jared explain his absence was to speak with legal experts on how to approach the situation, and to gather evidence in the meantime. When he posted the video, he then went on to explain that the posts made by the two who attacked him were partially faked. That yes he had talked to them and yes he had solicited nudes, but he had never solicited nudes from them as he was aware they were minors and thus never brought up sexual discussion at all. Over the course of his 45+ minute video, he systematically debunked the allegations against him regarding trading sexual images with minors, pointing out that he only ever did this with adults who verified they were legal adults to him and he asked them about it before doing so. What sounded like a child predator turned out to be a man who was doing something entirely legal. It wasn't a healthy thing to be doing and Jared probably shouldn't have been doing it, but it was between consenting adults and Jared never performed the allegations listed against him regarding the sexually explicit photos to and from minors. Suddenly, how funny it was that those who condemned him in cancel culture began deleting their posts and videos regarding Jared.
In 2018, a youtuber named "Spoctor" was accused by two youtubers of attempting to groom a minor. The entire situation exploded, and this 17-year-old was attacked across his social media and youtube platform regarding these allegation. Suddenly, one youtuber comes up named Ponder Sprocket and begins debunking the claims, and now all-of-the-sudden people turn on those who made the claims, revealing that they have been setting up Spoctor, deceptively wording posts, cropping posts to remove context, and lying. Then, when their friend handed over control of the Discord to another user named PKRussel. He, in turn, did a reveal on the posts made by those responsible for the controversy and explained the person who turned the Discord over to him did so out of guilt and anger, and revealed the entire controversy with all of these hidden posts. Spoctor was exhonerated, the two responsible fled the internet, and all of these anti-Spoctor videos were suddenly taken down almost like jumping on the bandwagon before you get all the details can be embarassing and dangerous.
My point is not to jump to conclusions before I have all the evidence. I certainly do believe that his is likely more guilty than not right now, but all I have is a single twitlonger and multiple imgur photos that claim to be fact. I haven't been able to verify the validity of these posts yet. If they are real, then in a short time we will have this proof, but right now we don't and people on Reddit, Discord, and others have been trying to assure the validity but none have been certain that they're real with at least a theoretical 80% accuracy ("way more likely yes" than just "mostly yes"). I'm not calling the poor girl who posted the twitlonger a liar either, my goal is to just be sure this isn't a repeat of cancel culture overreacting like with Projared. So many people believed those kids involved who claimed Jared solicited them, and then when Jared fired back with his proof, they just up and deleted their social media accounts and left the internet. It was suspicious when Rosner did it, and it was suspicious when they did it.
I am only defending the doctrine of "Innocent until proven guilty", and want to make sure I give a fair shake to the idea that there is more here than we currently know. The debacle is only four days old at time of posting (roughly), so I'm sure more evidence will come out, and once it becomes too likely that Rosner is guilty without a doubt, then we will do something regarding that. Until then, if you're going to claim I'm "defending him", then give me some evidence that he's guilty like I asked. All I want is proof. I want to make sure that he is guilty.
EDIT: Please see these links for our final updates on the controversy
https://theslenderman.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000001750779
https://theslenderman.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000002011576
Hello, everyone. So, I was notified that my project, Slender: The Arrival - Remastered, was added to the original game's Wikipedia page. However, the page stated that I was sent a cease & desist. Some of you might think that as well. So, without further ado, I would like clarify my plans for this project. The truth is...
Slender: The Arrival will get a remaster.
Believe me, I have gone through countless emails about fans inquiring about this game and an opportunity like this is just too irresistible to pass on.
For those of you wondering, the cease and desist was sent from the wrong organization, which has jurisdiction over a different Slenderman IP.
Currently, I am working my best, trying to come up with a reasonable agreement with the original developers - and I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I whole-heartedly want this game to become a reality, but I cannot make it happen without support, which is why I am planning on launching a Kickstarter for the game sometime this year. Now, I'm not worried about legality issues right now, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Thank you, everyone, for your support so far - and let's make this game happen!
-- SlenderDev
Hey, guys!
In light of the reception for the Slender Man movie, I am happy to announce that I am developing a new game about or related to The Slender Man Mythos! This game has nothing to do any past Slender Man games let alone ones I have developed. In short, it will be a fresh new take on the Mythos. Stay tuned for more details!
P.S. - I have noticed in the past that I tend to rush the development of my games a lot. For this project, that will change. Not letting any cats out of the bag yet!
Hello, everyone. My name is Brandon D. Santos, you may know me as "SlenderDev". I am here to formally announce my permanent departure from the Slender Man Mythos. The reason for this being the fact that I've spent too much time (4 years) and effort working these projects and that I'm moving on to more larger, more original projects.
I know that I've said this many times before. But, this time I'm serious about it. Dead serious. Hopefully, after the film is released, someone will come and make you guys a game. But, I must say that someone is not me.
Thank you, everyone for your everlasting support. I will miss you all.
Sincerely,
Brandon D. Santos, formerly known as "SlenderDev"
So, to everyone unaware of the situation, let me outline something that has been going on behind the scenes.
About a week and a half ago, a user duplicated multiple articles from the MarbleHornets section of the wiki and placed them on a new MarbleHornets wiki. This wiki hosted these articles, and the user seemed uninterested in removing the articles. Said wiki cannot be found, it is gone.
I contacted said user regarding the fact that the articles were plagiarized, and, while he didn't legally have to remove them, he was required by wikia to provide accreditation to his sources. The user proceeded to post a single post on my messages with him saying "Credit:https://theslenderman.wikia.com/wiki/Slender_Man#In_universe". When I told him this was not how credit works, and he needed to post a credit on every offending article back to our wiki, he went radio-silent.
I contacted Staff, and after a weeks worth of chances, said users wiki is gone and the user is banned for plagiarism.
Remember: Plagiarism counts on wikia. Just because we're creative commons, doesn't mean you can use the materials herein without credit on your wiki, and should you come across plagiarism, remind them to add credit to their articles. Should they refuse, let us or wikia staff know.
Hey! Here is a teaser trailer I created for my 5 episode Slender series that I just finished production on. If anyone can spare 2 minutes of their time to check it out and maybe watch the series, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mx8EbL0Ua0
Hello, everyone. I am very sad to announce that, during a conversation with TribeTwelve creator Adam Rosner (Noah Maxwell) on Facebook, I was informed that due to Hurricane Irma's impending destruction in Florida, that TribeTwelve will most likely end production. Adam has evacuated, however, his house (which is the set of the ARG) is right in the path of devastation of Hurricane Irma. He stated that he'll most likely end the series by releasing it in text form (possibly a book).
In case anyone's expecting another video in a few weeks, I'm afraid I got some bad news...
Did you ever wan to watch one of the admins play Slender?!
...No?
...Oh, well, here you go, anyway.
(see below)
(Note: While posting this the video is still processing, should be done by 1 pm central time. For better reference, as I post this thread it says 53 minutes remaining.
Oh, well, have this 15 second promo video.
Some of you may have seen articles with the following template:
FROM AN ARG OR ARE This article discusses content originating from the ARG or ARE 'INSERT ARG' and thus is confirmed to be fictional. Characters and organizations discussed are portrayed by actors. |
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This was designed to make note of characters from ARGs and ARE's (wow, shocking) to prevent people from mistaking certain characters for real.
Trust me, we've had enough people ranting on Novus Ordo Europa about how we're all foolish cult followers that something had to be done...along with all the people claiming they are being stalked by Masky.
That being said, IT'S ONLY FOR ARG AND ARE CHARACTERS/ORGANIZATIONS THAT ORIGINATED IN AN ARG OR ARE. You do not use it on every fictional character.
You put in the template, fill the text box with what ARG or ARE they're from, and let the article tell the rest.
That being said.....there's a lot of articles about ARGs and AREs.
I went through the Proxy pages and got all of those, as well as The Operator and Novus Ordo Europa.
I don't normally get mad about or address Slenderman fan-fictions and fan characters, but some brat on Deviantart apparently thinks it's okay to make comics about those two girls who attempted to sacrifice their friend to Slender Man in Wisconsin.
I'm going to say this right now: This is unacceptable, illegal, and quite frankly, highly unethical
Thankfully, she has been reported, but I still feel this is worth addressing, as some ethics and legal technicalities come into play, that you need to be aware of.
It's Illegal
It is illegal to use someone in your work of fiction without their consent.
That's right, folks, the United States First Amendment does not give you the right to do whatever the heck you want, despite what whiny trolls on the internet like to claim.
The deviant user's comics and art violates multiple rights, including right of privacy, right of publicity, and it even qualifies as a "false light" privacy violation by portraying them as actual proxies.
The victim's family could easily sue this person for making light of their ill-fortune, and the attackers families would also have the same right to sue. Quite frankly, if given the chance, I hope they do so.
While we're at it, some quick notes for future writers:
- You can also be sued if you use actual missing persons in your works, and even end up with a police investigation on your hands if they think you might actually know where the missing person went, so don't do that, either.
- Changing the names of people also does not guarantee any legal freedom of use.
- Seriously, read that whole page I linked at the beginning of this section.
Ethics
Even without the legal technicalities, this is a major ethical violation.
Making fiction glorifying the acts of real-life criminals is unethical. Do you have any idea how many horror films were re-written upon realizing they were too similar to recent major crimes? If major horror writers can have the decency to not glorify real criminals, and be sensitive to victims of real-life crimes, so can you.
Every real fan and contributor to the mythos was disgusted by the girl's actions. We had an entire post about how what they did was wrong, and the Creepypasta wiki made an announcement that stories based on it would not be accepted, with every user agreeing that trying to make a story based on the events was wrong. There were even several funding projects to help the victim of the stabbings.
The entire mythos and fandom agree, what they did was evil and anyone who attempts to glorify them is sick and twisted in the head. Everyone who makes comics, fan art, and fanfictions of these girls is shunned by the mythos.
The Mythos
We have also made it clear their claims do not match up with the actual mythos in any way. This was also covered in the post on the stabbings.
There was no mansion in the woods. Slender Man does not want human sacrifices. There is no way to become a proxy other than Slender Man forcing you to. Being a proxy is a bad thing, because you're essentially a slave who will eventually be disposed of.
Every real fan of the mythos knows these girls were nuts, they are not proxies, and they should not be glorified for their acts of violence.
That being said, every attempt to connect them to the mythos has been banned, and will continue to be banned on all our wikis.
This means no role-playing as them on the RP wiki, no trying to make articles about them on any of our wikis, and absolutely no more claiming to be proxies on the wiki (as you may have already noticed).
No fan of the Slender Man mythos likes these girls. They had no conscience.
What this means for you
Making art, fanfiction, and comics about real life crimes (particularly recent ones) cannot be tolerated. As a mythos and fandom, we cannot allow people to think this is acceptable behavior towards recent and serious crimes. While there is little we can do about other websites other than reporting it and decrying your lack of conscience, on here we will block you immediately, and remove the offending content.
If you spot someone partaking in this behavior on another website, report them to those who run that website.
If you find it happening here, report it to one of us as soon as possible. A list of admins can be found on the home page and in the terms of service.
Hello everyone. Recently, after editing a page, I noticed the YouTube javascript we use to give some music to some pages has apparently stopped working.
Research into this problem revealed the issue is actually that a troll apparently managed to hack directly into Wikia's datacenter and proceeded to wreak havoc on the entire system, compromising tons of usernames and other information.
As a result, the Javascript is offline until further notice by Staff. As a result, anyone using on-site javascript commands will likely notice none of them will work.
Recently a user came onto the wiki and posted the following message:
Um this may sound stupid and I'm sorry if it does. Kinda want some reassurance here I guess. Not going to lie, I never really believed in all this stuff, how 'Slenderman', The 'Operator', or what ever you want to call him exists. But I've had my fair share of... 'strange' occurrences happen to me and seeing this place kind of makes me think you're the people to go to I guess? Now I don't know if you're all saying these things as a joke, lying for attention or telling the truth, but I know I'm being honest. I won't go into detail of all of the things that have occurred unless it's absolutely necessary, but I'd like a few things cleared up if that's ok, maybe?
For the sake of help, I do remember some 'unusual' actions when I was younger. I remember a black 'chunk' in my memory but after I was lying on the floor, gormlessly staring at my rooms light-bulb. My mother walked in and was terrified because (in her words) she thought I was dead. Two other early memories was a 'utopian' dream I had, and I vaguely remember a tall, black and skinny figure within the pink fields. But I wasn't bothered by him, nor did anything occur to me that something was odd about him. The final main thing as a kid was that I had an obsession with recording myself and my life (but had no camera to do it). Heck, I even remember breaking down to my mom saying I had to do it because I'm afraid my life would end or all my memories would go away. Back then I had no reason to think or feel that way. As for recent stuff, it's been a lot, but my main query that I've found nothing on anywhere is a 'mask sensation'. I remember waking up one morning with the strangest feeling as though I had been wearing a mask for quite some time (or at least enough to barely recognise my own reflection). Now I literally couldn't have got a full mask from home because the only masks I own are eye masks (for art) and I couldn't have left my home as it's hard to creep around there without making sound and I remember having a dream (no it wasn't related). It's only occurred once but it still... I guess bothers me in a way. Any help would be appreciated and sorry to invade on another's post. If anyone needs actual help and isn't lying then I'll owe you I guess.
We here at the Slenderman wiki are going to take all such comments 100% seriously. After the Waukesha Wisconsin stabbings, we cannot afford not to.
We here at the Slenderman wiki are not medical professionals. We cannot diagnose your hysteria or medical situation and will not proceed to do so. We will tell you to seek guidance for your mental health issues and leave this site for your own safety. If you take offense to that, we don't care.
This website is operated as a giant collection of horror stories, however as the stabbings have proven some people take it waaay too far. We will not pretend to be ignorant of this fact and will take this entirely seriously.
At no point will members of the administration play along with such comments. We will tell you to leave and gather mental help, and we will not indulge your situation. I am aware that if you read the above post you can clearly see that the user is essentially ripping off the entirety of the situation of MarbleHornets. Regardless, I am going to treat it all the same. Any user coming on here, like above, claiming to have mental breakdowns over needing a camera, passing out, and feeling like they were "wearing a mask" for an extended period of time is going to be told the same. Go seek help for your mental issues. We aren't going to indulge your breakdown. Leave this wiki for your own safety. I'm not going to be nice about it. I do not care if you are offended that I tell you to seek mental help and to leave this wiki, because quite frankly it's not worth risking a potential individual performing a sadistic act.
The ONLY exception to this is if you contact me on my message wall and tell me that you are roleplaying a character. If you do so, I am more than willing to allow you to "pretend" to be sick or behaving this way. If I don't get that message on my wall, you will be told to leave or your posts will be summarily deleted.
Furthermore, the Zero Tolerance Proxy discussion is still in full effect, and users claiming to be proxies will have their posts deleted without warning. Nobody on this wiki is a proxy, period. You can roleplay a proxy if, like above, you contact me on my message wall to tell me you are roleplaying a character. Otherwise your post will be deleted and bans may be faced. If an individual becomes problematic, or their posts are worrisome, you will be banned for an unspecified time including permanently and a year, with anything below optional. We are taking no risks.
That is all. Enjoy your day.
I feel that I aam not here very often. Many times what I am doing on wiki isn't noticed. (background mantinance exc) as such. My adminship should be passed on to the next person.
Hello everyone. Great news this time for all to hear. Recently an interview was done with the parents of the Slender Man stabbing victim Payton. She appears to have survived her ordeal and is on the way to recovery.
Someone stated in a comment I once read that the article and situation of what happened is no longer relevant or at least outdated, but I hope we can agree as a community that this is not something that has become "irrelevant". Far from it. The fate of this young girl is extremely important and has become something that we should all keep in mind while telling our spooky Slender Man stories.
I would like to reiterate that we here on SMW like to keep in character on this wiki that Slender Man is in fact around. It makes for better stories and better community. That being said, I will say this once more, and highlight it so it is blunt and obvious. Additionally, like before, we shall make an exception to the stating fake rule of the ToU here.
Slender Man is a scary story. He is a great medium for a myth. He is a character featured in internet series. He is a spooky enemy in a game. Slender Man is, and always has been, a great showing of literary horror and how so many can come together to create a wonderful ficticious mythos.
He is also completely fake.
I will now copy-paste an entire paragraph from my statement on the previous thread.
Slender Man does not want your ritual sacrifices. No part of the mythos lore has ever stated he lives in a "forest mansion", that he wants you to kill for him, or that you will become a proxy by killing for him. These things will not allow you to "see" the Slender Man. Additionally, we would like to remind everyone that Slender Man, while based on some lore, is mainly creepy horror stories. Every blog and Video series out there is entirely ficticious and is simply there for scary entertainment like a horror film. Stabbing a girl 19 times will not get you to see Slender Man, it will get your hands and legs bound in cuffs while you are lead to a bus. Said bus will then take you to where you will be living for years, maybe even decades, while you realize the reality of what you have actually done and the physical and emotional abuse you will suffer by the criminals surrounding you.
Slender Man is not a tool or a cop out story for you to use as a flimsy justification for murder, theft, violence, or any other crime. If you ever feel Slender Man is telling you to kill, or you see him in your dreams insisting you kill, we strongly suggest you immediately seek medical attention as not only this is purely insane, it is also completely impossible.
We as a community do have a couple responsibilities, and the main one is to remember that we while we are not responsible for what people do with the mythos, that we are taking part in creative fun that can be taken way too far. To that end, for all the parents out there or at least those whom are guardians of a younger age, please do us a favor and assure that your child is capable of viewing this site. If not, we strongly urge you to do the following.
1. Explain to your child/dependant you do not want them here.
2. Block the site URL from your internet browser.
3. Monitor or control the open internet time of your child/dependant to assure they do not come to this site.
4. Actively view and watch the history of your internet browser to assure they are not visiting this site.
5. Place parental controls on your computer to assure your child/dependant is not accessing this or other sites you do not want them to access.
Once again, we would much rather you disallow your children from coming here than worrying about what may be if they are unable to mentally handle it.
As for Payton, well you can easily look up her name on the news and find some great news. She has a serious determination to live, and, according to some of the photo's I've seen, is smiling. She has probably far more fortitude that I that I can assure, I don't think I would have been able to handle the situation nearly as well as she did, and I can only guess that could go for a lot of us. A fund has been started to help with donations to the family for assistance with medical bills. I won't post a link here, but it's not hard to find should you wish to help the young girl out.
Again, while I highly doubt Payton would ever come to this site, should for any reason she read this message, we here at SMW are happy you are making a recovery. We may not have been responsible for the unfortunate situation that befell you, but we are trying to take measures to assure it won't happen again to another the best of our ability. We have always been enforcing the 13 years or older requirement by wikia, but now, all comments coming in of people stating their adoration or desire of Slender Man are taken fully serious and none are glossed over as stupid comments or silly obsession. We may not be able to control people's actions, but we would like to think a few preventative steps can assure this never happens to another person again. Please do not lose your innocence, it is the best quality one of your age has, and I do very hope that you and your future will glow even brighter. You survived something most of us would never be able to step away from, and we hope your smile keeps you going.
I wish I had more to offer or give in this statement, and should any other admin wish, we could always use some extra input. For now, we are just glad you are recovering.
If you would like to view the original thread that this is a follow up to, please click here.Additionally, please do refrain from speaking of the girls who committed the act. This thread is about Payton and her survival, and we should keep it at that. Any comments or questions regarding the girls who did the stabbing should be kept to the other thread, and NO NAMES, other than Payton of course.
Fobarimperius (talk) 02:32, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps many of you have heard already, but this is a significant topic to be covered. Please remember all my information is tentative and based soley on a few news articles which will not be referenced in this post, and further research is at your diescretion.
On May 30th, 2014, a young girl of 12 years of age was apparently lured to a forest on the pretense of hanging out with two other girls of the same age, whose names have been publicly released, but will be withheld in this post. Therefore, we shall refer to them as A and B, and the victim as C.
A and B stated on the context that Slender Man would appear and they would apparently go to live in his "forest mansion". To do so, they brutally stabbed C 19 times and attempted to keep her from being found by anyone. Luckily for C, she was approached by a bicyclist who proceeded to call 911 and save her life. C is currently, from what I can find, in critical condition, but thankfully alive and still kicking.
A and B on the other hand, will be tried as adults and could face up to 60 years in prison time, meaning they would be released at the age of 72.
Our condolensces go out to the families of both the victim and A and B, who have been apparently very distraught over the situation (which is of course no surprise). As an admin of the Slender Man wiki, it felt only appropriate to address this head on and tell the community why this should be taken as a cautionary tale of going too far.
Slender Man does not want your ritual sacrifices. No part of the mythos lore has ever stated he lives in a "forest mansion", that he wants you to kill for him, or that you will become a proxy by killing for him. These things will not allow you to "see" the Slender Man. Additionally, we would like to remind everyone that Slender Man, while based on some lore, is mainly creepy horror stories. Every blog and Video series out there is entirely ficticious and is simply there for scary entertainment like a horror film. Stabbing a girl 19 times will not get you to see Slender Man, it will get your hands and legs bound in cuffs while you are lead to a bus. Said bus will then take you to where you will be living for years, maybe even decades, while you realize the reality of what you have actually done and the physical and emotional abuse you will suffer by the criminals surrounding you.
Slender Man is not a tool or a cop out story for you to use as a flimsy justification for murder, theft, violence, or any other crime. If you ever feel Slender Man is telling you to kill, or you see him in your dreams insisting you kill, we strongly suggest you immediately seek medical attention as not only this is purely insane, it is also completely impossible.
That said, I have already deleted two comments insinuating it is somehow our faults (the entire community) that this crime has taken place. While I do give my condolensces to the families as stated above, I think I can speak for many of us, including the other admins, that we ourselves do not take any responsibility for the crime itself and are in no way morally or legally tied to the situation. What has happened here is an unfortunate situation resulting from two young women who took this too far. Many individuals on this site have been here for months or years and have never had a problem with anything Slender Man related. Sure, many users create false posts and fictional blogs pretending to be having their own Slender Man adventure, but to the knowledge of the admin team, we are unable to determine who is and who isn't serious about what they type, and we also lack any legal ability and right to investigate into a persons life. If your child uses this website, please check their posts, their blogs, and any activity they use on this site. You may do so by clicking their username or IP address in the top right corner of the page and clicking Blog for blogs and Contributions for posts, edits, and so forth. Such as Catcher in the Rye convinced a man to kill another, and Doom supposedly inspired a shooting, Slender Man is, himself, a victim in this as well. The mythos isn't responsible for who lets their children use this website, and we have clearly stated in our ToS, as has wikia in their ToU, that we do not allow users under the age of 13 to utilize the website, but we also have no direct ability to discern anyones age whatsoever unless said user states their age.
If you are a parent who is worried about the potential for Slender Man to scare their child, cause their child to act out, or worried that their child could try to "become a proxy", I strongly urge you to block this wiki's url from your browser and disallow your child any and all access to this site altogether. We all love a good scare, but any real violence is not funny.
I appreciate you taking the time to fully read this post through, and do you hope that you can have a good day.
ADDENDUM:
As expected people are coming to the wiki and insulting users, the mythos, and attacking the wiki demanding it be shut down.
This wiki has no intention whatsoever to shut itself down. The Slender Man Wiki, the Creepypasta Wiki, any wiki's that host Slender Man information have been given no requirement to shut down, and I know I will not shut it down due to this incident.
Victor Surge will not be arrested. He had nothing to do with the stabbings, and authors cannot be held responsible for people taking their writing too far and killing. He has done nothing wrong, and will be just fine.
Also, this wiki's rules did not get shut down. I would like to remind everyone that religious references, stating Slender Man is fake, and all other ToS rules are still in effect and will be enforced. We didn't lost them due to this. The only thread that is an exception to the Fake rule is this one.
Finally, comments insulting the wiki, calling people here sick, demanding the wiki be shut down, or anything directly negative against the wiki are still against the rules, and will be deleted.
ADDENDUM: I am happy to report that the victim, whose name has been withheld from the public, appears to have nearly fully recovered from the attack, and is on her way home. We here at the Slender Man Wiki sincerely hope that she will be able to move on from this incident, both physically and mentally. Incidents like this can leave lasting emotional scars, and for good reason, so, while there is a good chance she nor her family is reading this, we do deeply wish for a full recovery, and that nothing like this would ever happen to you or anyone ever again. We do fully promise Slender Man has never been intended to be an icon of murder. His intention is to be scary. The goal of Slender Man is to escape him, run away, not see him, fear his presence. Slender Man has never been an icon for murder or killing, and no major Slender Man series ever depict him as that. He is a scary monster, like Freddy Krueger, the aliens from the Alien franchise, a monster from Silent Hill, or even Kayako from The Grudge. That's all. We aren't releasing these statements for good PR, we legitimately do feel bad this situation came to pass, and even though none of us bear any connection to your situation, we still want to let you and others know that this isn't what Slender Man is, and shouldn't be.
A speedy recovery to the poor girl, and hopes that getting the hard part out of the way now can be smooth sailings and years up in the hundreds.